Technologies 2001

bruno.schilli at de.abb.com bruno.schilli at de.abb.com
Fri Feb 9 03:33:58 EST 2001


Hello David,
we have 100% agreement, you formulated my point better than I did. My
comments to IIDEAS and Part 28 covered the fact, that someone from SC4
talks at a conference about that parts, but there is no presentation of SC4
data models, which could influence the development in W3C towards "semantic
web". And that's what could be improved.
I am pretty shure the STEP centers could do a part of the job, when there
would be real interest. But the real interest must come from industry. I
just saw Bills white paper, and can fully agree the fact, that there are
thousands of DTDs in development, more or less uncoordinated. I also tried
my best within my company, to convince people, they should reuse SC4
results. But the problem is, that these people look for easy solutions, and
SC4 solutions are not. The only way to convince people is to really produce
something usefull, e.g. a "light" DTD version of PLIB for description of
product catalogs. When delivered this should be moved to W3C as proposal.
And that could be done by SC4.
Another approach I thought about, is to influence conventional standards of
products, in order to produce an additional DTD attachment. E.g. when an
ISO standard like that for fans (ISO 13349) is reviewed, ISO could
recommend the editors to create a DTD for the properties specified in that
standard (using e.g. the "light DTD PLIB" just mentionned), and that's
something, which could be influenced by SC4. In fact brain of SC4 people is
needed to create that DTD in terms of a project. And that's industry
responsibility.
I hope I have kicked-off something usefull for Funchal "future STEP
planning".
best wishes
Bruno


                                                                                        
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Bruno,

>We believe, that it is time for sc4 to leave the ivory
>tower and deliver the results of the long time work to industry.

>I proposed that this should be discussed in SC4 in Funchal, especially how
>SC4 is marketing in a better way it's results.

I propose that, unsurprisingly, SC4 is a spectacularly unsuccessful
marketing organization. It's an ISO SC with no real budget for such
activities as they are not really in its charter. All SC4 can really do is
standardize documents. I also propose that industry is the place where
marketing should/can happen. Perhaps coordination through the STEP Centers
has a better chance of success?

If your point is that the most important property of SC4 is the
intellectual content of the models and somehow these need to be presented
to the non-STEP world in a form they can use, then I agree 100 percent. If
that isn't your point, then I'm not sure I understand what problem you are
trying to address. For example I don't understand your Part 28/IIDEAS
comment.

David

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