[step-manufacturing] Minutes of August 23 conference call

[Christian Caillet]

Hello,

Just a point, to notice that Part 21 and Part 28 are also actually used 
in IFC exchanges (the standard used in BIM) : to take into account.


Le 07/09/2017 à 17:47, Martin Hardwick a écrit :
> I take a step further back and say that the requirement for Part 28 is 
> to make STEP easier to implement using XML. The methods chosen for 
> Edition 1 and Edition 2 of Part 28 have not satisfied this requirement 
> so time to try again.
>
> Martin
> On 9/7/2017 11:26 AM, Jean Brangé [Boost Conseil] wrote:
>> We need to be aligned there ;)
>>
>> My understanding of part 28 was that it was to provide an 
>> implementation binding from Express to XML through an XSD schema 
>> derived from an Express schema by applying a P28 transformation.
>>
>> from what I read in your answer you seem to be more interested in 
>> implementing services based processes using on the STEP or QIF data 
>> sets representing manufacturing processes (data? ) , seems to be 
>> distinct from the  the initial scope of Part 28 , doesn't  it ?
>>
>>
>> Jean Brange , Boost
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>>
>>
>>> On 7 Sep 2017, at 17:19, Martin Hardwick <hardwick at steptools.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jean,
>>>
>>> We are talking about updating the ISO 10303-28 specification but not 
>>> so that it is a new version of Part 21 in XML.
>>>
>>> We want to be able to communicate changes between dynamically 
>>> executing manufacturing systems whose processes are modeled in STEP 
>>> or QIF.
>>>
>>> In our DMDII projects we had a lot of success doing this with 
>>> MTConnect.
>>>
>>> Therefore, we would like to use MTConnect as an exemplar for a new 
>>> version of Part 28 that enables the communication of dynamic product 
>>> model changes between CNC and CMM systems, and maybe other types of 
>>> systems as well.
>>>
>>> One of the issues I would like to discuss at an appropriate SC4 
>>> meeting is whether such communication also applies to the AP242e1 
>>> BOM XML.
>>>
>>> I have seen e-mail implying that the BOM XML is being used to 
>>> communicate kinematic changes between systems which seems similar I 
>>> think.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/7/2017 5:29 AM, Jean Brangé [Boost Conseil] wrote:
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>> I see in your slides a refernce to part28
>>>>     "•Definition of the new Part 28"
>>>>
>>>> Can you provide more details on your thoughts ? ;)
>>>>
>>>> are you talking of
>>>> - updating the ISO 10303-28 specifications ?
>>>> - using AP242 XSD schemas for exchange of data ?
>>>> - defining specific AP238 XML schema ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jean Brange , Boost
>>>> -- 
>>>> jean.brange at boost-conseil.com - gsm: + 33-683 628 902 - tel: 
>>>> +33-144568750 - skype: jbrange
>>>> Business Opportunities with Organizations, Standards and Technologies
>>>> 30, rue de Miromesnil - 75008 Paris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 29 Aug 2017, at 13:02, Martin Hardwick <hardwick at steptools.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Attendees:
>>>>> Martin Hardwick, STEP Tools, USA
>>>>> Larry Maggiano, Mitutoyo, USA
>>>>> David Loffredo, STEP Tools, USA
>>>>> David Briggs, Boeing, USA
>>>>> John Horst, NIST USA
>>>>> Bengt Olsson, Sandvik, Sweden
>>>>> Alain Brail, Airbus (reitred), France
>>>>> Jochen Haenisch, EPM, Norway
>>>>> Serigusz Sobieski, TIZ Implements, Poland
>>>>> Asa Trainer, ITI, USA
>>>>> Liming Li, MIcro Encoder, USA
>>>>> John Horst, NIST USA,
>>>>> Curtis Brown, KCP, USA
>>>>>
>>>>> The current status of the discussion on the inclusion of QIF is 
>>>>> summarized in the attached slides.
>>>>>
>>>>> The next conference call will be on September 6th.
>>>>>
>>>>> Recorded by Martin Hardwick
>>>>> Convener ISO STEP WG15 Digital Manufacturing
>>>>>
>>>>> Action Items:
>>>>> 1. QIF to use the CAX-IF site as the model for making a list of 
>>>>> implementors
>>>>> 2. WG15 to facilitate a review of AP242 e2 by QIF
>>>>> 3. Asa Trainer to present position paper on UUID's and QPID's to PDES
>>>>> <WG15 Federated 
>>>>> Architecture.pptx>_______________________________________________
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