[step-manufacturing] Minutes of August 23 conference call

[Martin Hardwick]

I take a step further back and say that the requirement for Part 28 is 
to make STEP easier to implement using XML. The methods chosen for 
Edition 1 and Edition 2 of Part 28 have not satisfied this requirement 
so time to try again.

Martin
On 9/7/2017 11:26 AM, Jean Brangé [Boost Conseil] wrote:
> We need to be aligned there ;)
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> My understanding of part 28 was that it was to provide an implementation binding from Express to XML through an XSD schema derived from an Express schema by applying a P28 transformation.
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> from what I read in your answer you seem to be more interested in implementing services based processes using on the STEP or QIF data sets representing manufacturing processes (data? ) , seems to be distinct from the  the initial scope of Part 28 , doesn't  it ?
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>> On 7 Sep 2017, at 17:19, Martin Hardwick <hardwick at steptools.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Jean,
>>
>> We are talking about updating the ISO 10303-28 specification but not so that it is a new version of Part 21 in XML.
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>> We want to be able to communicate changes between dynamically executing manufacturing systems whose processes are modeled in STEP or QIF.
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>> In our DMDII projects we had a lot of success doing this with MTConnect.
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>> Therefore, we would like to use MTConnect as an exemplar for a new version of Part 28 that enables the communication of dynamic product model changes between CNC and CMM systems, and maybe other types of systems as well.
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>> One of the issues I would like to discuss at an appropriate SC4 meeting is whether such communication also applies to the AP242e1 BOM XML.
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>> I have seen e-mail implying that the BOM XML is being used to communicate kinematic changes between systems which seems similar I think.
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>> Martin
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>> On 9/7/2017 5:29 AM, Jean Brangé [Boost Conseil] wrote:
>>> Hi Martin,
>>>
>>> I see in your slides a refernce to part28
>>> 	"•Definition of the new Part 28"
>>>
>>> Can you provide more details on your thoughts ? ;)
>>>
>>> are you talking of
>>> - updating the ISO 10303-28 specifications ?
>>> - using AP242 XSD schemas for exchange of data ?
>>> - defining specific AP238 XML schema ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Jean Brange , Boost
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>>> jean.brange at boost-conseil.com - gsm: + 33-683 628 902 - tel: +33-144568750 - skype: jbrange
>>> Business Opportunities with Organizations, Standards and Technologies
>>> 30, rue de Miromesnil - 75008 Paris
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>>>
>>>> On 29 Aug 2017, at 13:02, Martin Hardwick <hardwick at steptools.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Attendees:
>>>> Martin Hardwick, STEP Tools, USA
>>>> Larry Maggiano, Mitutoyo, USA
>>>> David Loffredo, STEP Tools, USA
>>>> David Briggs, Boeing, USA
>>>> John Horst, NIST USA
>>>> Bengt Olsson, Sandvik, Sweden
>>>> Alain Brail, Airbus (reitred), France
>>>> Jochen Haenisch, EPM, Norway
>>>> Serigusz Sobieski, TIZ Implements, Poland
>>>> Asa Trainer, ITI, USA
>>>> Liming Li, MIcro Encoder, USA
>>>> John Horst, NIST USA,
>>>> Curtis Brown, KCP, USA
>>>>
>>>> The current status of the discussion on the inclusion of QIF is summarized in the attached slides.
>>>>
>>>> The next conference call will be on September 6th.
>>>>
>>>> Recorded by Martin Hardwick
>>>> Convener ISO STEP WG15 Digital Manufacturing
>>>>
>>>> Action Items:
>>>> 1. QIF to use the CAX-IF site as the model for making a list of implementors
>>>> 2. WG15 to facilitate a review of AP242 e2 by QIF
>>>> 3. Asa Trainer to present position paper on UUID's and QPID's to PDES
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