[step-manufacturing] Fwd: RE: ISO Industry Day Proposed Agenda

Martin Hardwick hardwick at steptools.com
Wed Aug 23 14:17:34 EDT 2006


>Subject: RE: ISO Industry Day Proposed Agenda
>To: "Yunas, Akram" <Ayunas at aiag.org>
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>Hello Akram:
>Can you provide the entire agenda, please? As I read, there are more days
>to this symposium than what we currently have exposure to.
>I think this would help us understand the broader context and would go a
>long way to shaping the best fit of our topics and material.
>BTW: I think the end-to-end data flow discussion that Martin refers to is
>definitely something that should be addressed. As has been mentioned
>before, the NIST Metrology Interoperability Summit, lacked participation
>from Machine Tool (i.e. production) people and it is critical to understand
>and incorporate the OMAC work into the technology roadmap.
>Best regards,
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>Robert Brown
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>                                        RE: ISO Industry Day Proposed
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>Martin: You already heard from John Horst. I$B!G(Bd like to leave the agenda
>finalization to my Committee Leadership.
>Guys, Please review Martin$B!G(Bs comments and respond. I am 
>flexible as to what
>the final agenda looks like. The key take away from the meeting I want is
>for the automotive industry to understand where ISO is today and vice
>versa$B!D(B related to Manufacturing/Metrology standards and future direction.
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>Maybe I should arrange a conference call between the Metrology Project Team
>leaders and Martin to address this issue?
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>Your thoughts please.
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>Akram.
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>From: Martin Hardwick [mailto:hardwick at steptools.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:46 AM
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>Subject: Re: ISO Industry Day Proposed Agenda
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>Hi Akram,
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>We received criticism in Toulouse because our STEP-Manufacturing
>presentations went on for too long.  I would like to avoid this problem in
>Hershey so I am wondering if there is a way that we can make the second
>half of the agenda more collaborative.
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>In particular, I know a lot of industry is becoming frustrated because
>there is no IMPLEMENTED standard for defining tolerance information. In
>STEP-Manufacturing we need these tolerances for AP-238 closed loop
>machining, and AP-219 results of dimensional inspection. I expect you need
>these tolerances for several of your metrology standards as well!
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>The level of frustration has reached a level where there is now interest in
>OMAC and STEP-Manufacturing for putting together an HMI/API for creating
>the tolerance data. We would use the HMI to create the (XML) tolerance data
>for closed loop machining applications. If the AIAG metrology team were
>able to use the same HMI to create data for dimensional inspection then we
>might be able to use the synergy to encourage the proper implementation of
>the required data within CAD, CNC and CMM systems.
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>Could we use the second half of the day to discuss this in more detail?
>Perhaps you could bring a representative part to the meeting so that we
>could discuss how to define the required information. We can do the same
>for a closed loop machining STEP-NC part. I think the meeting would be a
>great success if we could conclude the day with a list of say the top 10
>items that need to be implemented in the new HMI/API to cover 80% of the
>cases and enable its use in seed applications for machining and inspection.
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>Martin
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>At 02:53 PM 8/22/2006, Yunas, Akram wrote:
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>Hi Martin: I was able to make some time today and thought I should get you
>the AIAG proposed agenda for the Industry Day.
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>I think Wednesday October 25 will work for us as you guys have a very full
>agenda on other days. I recommend scheduling the AIAG agenda after lunch
>for continuity and this also gives us a chance to be able to fly in and out
>the same day.
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>I am excited about the opportunity of getting the automotive industry back
>in the loop on our TC 184 activities. The panel discussion at the end
>should provide us with the chance to have some open dialogue and maybe
>establish some future activities where we can collaborate closely.
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>Please confirm if this is workable. My volunteers need to put this on their
>calendars.
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>Kind Regards,
>
>Akram
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