[step-manufacturing] Fwd: RE: ISO Industry Day Proposed Agenda

Martin Hardwick hardwick at steptools.com
Wed Aug 23 14:17:14 EDT 2006


>Subject: RE: ISO Industry Day Proposed Agenda
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:07:30 -0400
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>From: "Yunas, Akram" <Ayunas at aiag.org>
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>Martin: You already heard from John Horst. I’d 
>like to leave the agenda finalization to my Committee Leadership.
>Guys, Please review Martin’s comments and 
>respond. I am flexible as to what the final 
>agenda looks like. The key take away from the 
>meeting I want is for the automotive industry to 
>understand where ISO is today and vice versa
 
>related to Manufacturing/Metrology standards and future direction.
>
>Maybe I should arrange a conference call between 
>the Metrology Project Team leaders and Martin to address this issue?
>
>Your thoughts please.
>
>
>Akram.
>
>
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>From: Martin Hardwick [mailto:hardwick at steptools.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:46 AM
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>Steve Peca; Larry Snowden; 
>danebarrager at asidatamyte.com; John Horst; 
>robert.brown at mitutoyo.com; Donald Galway
>Subject: Re: ISO Industry Day Proposed Agenda
>
>
>Hi Akram,
>
>We received criticism in Toulouse because our 
>STEP-Manufacturing presentations went on for too 
>long.  I would like to avoid this problem in 
>Hershey so I am wondering if there is a way that 
>we can make the second half of the agenda more collaborative.
>
>In particular, I know a lot of industry is 
>becoming frustrated because there is no 
>IMPLEMENTED standard for defining tolerance 
>information. In STEP-Manufacturing we need these 
>tolerances for AP-238 closed loop machining, and 
>AP-219 results of dimensional inspection. I 
>expect you need these tolerances for several of 
>your metrology standards as well!
>
>The level of frustration has reached a level 
>where there is now interest in OMAC and 
>STEP-Manufacturing for putting together an 
>HMI/API for creating the tolerance data. We 
>would use the HMI to create the (XML) tolerance 
>data for closed loop machining applications. If 
>the AIAG metrology team were able to use the 
>same HMI to create data for dimensional 
>inspection then we might be able to use the 
>synergy to encourage the proper implementation 
>of the required data within CAD, CNC and CMM systems.
>
>Could we use the second half of the day to 
>discuss this in more detail? Perhaps you could 
>bring a representative part to the meeting so 
>that we could discuss how to define the required 
>information. We can do the same for a closed 
>loop machining STEP-NC part. I think the meeting 
>would be a great success if we could conclude 
>the day with a list of say the top 10 items that 
>need to be implemented in the new HMI/API to 
>cover 80% of the cases and enable its use in 
>seed applications for machining and inspection.
>
>Martin
>
>
>
>At 02:53 PM 8/22/2006, Yunas, Akram wrote:
>
>Hi Martin: I was able to make some time today 
>and thought I should get you the AIAG proposed agenda for the Industry Day.
>
>I think Wednesday October 25 will work for us as 
>you guys have a very full agenda on other days. 
>I recommend scheduling the AIAG agenda after 
>lunch for continuity and this also gives us a 
>chance to be able to fly in and out the same day.
>
>I am excited about the opportunity of getting 
>the automotive industry back in the loop on our 
>TC 184 activities. The panel discussion at the 
>end should provide us with the chance to have 
>some open dialogue and maybe establish some 
>future activities where we can collaborate closely.
>
>
>Please confirm if this is workable. My 
>volunteers need to put this on their calendars.
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>Akram
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