Extended select type

[Phil Spiby]

Jochen,

It is clear there is a line with a circle on the end, but  there is NO
normative text defining the style of this line (should it be thick, normal,
dashed). Since we now have other end styles for Subtype constraints should
these replace the circle at the end, should we have one page reference per
relationship, can multiple things point to the page reference, if they have
different line styles how are these manages on the referred to page, should
the icon have multiple lines linking it to the referred to object.

As you can see there is no clear statement on what is the case here. If we
want to clarify this and get a consistent approach then it will delay the
DAM, since all the tools deal with this in different ways.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jochen Haenisch [mailto:Jochen.Haenisch at epmtech.jotne.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:46 AM
> To: 'Phil.Spiby at Eurostep.com'; 'Pascal Huau'; WG11
> Cc: Module exploder
> Subject: RE: Extended select type
>
>
> Phil,
> I do not know where the ambiguity is, but figure D.12 is at least
> clear. And
> not having a circle is sensible and easy to explain to modellers.
> Jochen
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Phil Spiby [SMTP:Phil.Spiby at Eurostep.com]
> > Sent:	18. april 2002 11:34
> > To:	Jochen Haenisch; 'Pascal Huau'; WG11
> > Cc:	Module exploder
> > Subject:	RE: Extended select type
> >
> > Jochen,
> >
> > Sorry to do this but...
> >
> > > In case the line ends at an off-page
> > > reference, there is no circle at the off-page reference > symbol; this
> > is
> > > never the case!
> >
> > The standard does not state normatively that this is the case,
> in fact the
> > standard is rather ambiguous in this area. We did tidy this up
> > significantly
> > in the original E2 (now E3) and make clear statements about the line
> > styles
> > to be used etc. But since there was a wide variety of interpretations in
> > the
> > current tools we decided not to force this issue the DAM (E2).
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-wg11 at steptools.com [mailto:owner-wg11 at steptools.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Jochen Haenisch
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:27 AM
> > > To: 'Pascal Huau'; WG11
> > > Cc: Module exploder
> > > Subject: RE: Extended select type
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Pascal,
> > >
> > > attached is a ppt-file with my understanding of the new Express-G
> > symbols.
> > > For selects this seems to be in line with your description below -
> > except
> > > (maybe?!?) for the direction: the line goes from the
> extensible (the one
> > > with the EX) to the extending. In case the line ends at an off-page
> > > reference, there is no circle at the off-page reference
> symbol; this is
> > > never the case!
> > >
> > > Best regards, Jochen.
> > >
> > >  <<P11e2_graphical_symbols.ppt>>
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> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:	Pascal Huau [SMTP:pascalhuau at goset.asso.fr]
> > > > Sent:	17. april 2002 15:29
> > > > To:	WG11
> > > > Cc:	Module exploder
> > > > Subject:	Extended select type
> > > >
> > > > Dear Express2 experts,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Question about the Express-G representation of an extended SELECT
> > type:
> > > > could you confirm that the connection line between the extended
> > > SELECT and
> > > > the extensible SELECT is a thick line that goes from the
> > > rectangle of the
> > > > extended select to the rectangle of the extensible select (line
> > > terminated
> > > > by a circle).
> > > >
> > > > Additional question:
> > > > in case the extensible select is used from an another schema, shall
> > the
> > > > line end at the reference balloon with or without a circle?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for your help,
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Pascal Huau
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> > > > France
> > >
>