Ontoloty and SC4 Data Integration Architecture

[West, Matthew MR SSI-GREA-UK]

Dear David,

I good pitch. See below for comments

Regards  
      Matthew
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Price [mailto:dmprice at us.ibm.com]
> Sent: 06 March 2001 18:13
> To: wg10 at steptools.com
> Subject: Ontoloty and SC4 Data Integration Architecture
> 
> 
> WG10 folks,
> 
> I stumbled across the following when looking at the XML.org 
> Web site. It
> appears to be very much along the lines of what the 
> integration model in
> the SC4 Integration Architecture is doing. Just wondering if 
> anyone has
> looked into this. 

MW: I know about CYC, and XTM, but not this particular intiative.
However, someone was going to do this sometime.

CYC is a rather different beast than the sort of things that we do
in SC4.

> Also, I noted that it's using XML Topic 
> Maps which as I
> mentioned in a previous email seem to be getting a lot of 
> press relative to
> SC4 activities. It seems to me we should DO something about that. 

MW: Well I guess we could put ISO15926-2 into Topic Maps ...

> I'm
> particularly concerned that what IIDEAS is going to produce soon is an
> overview and methodology while these other groups are producing
> ontologies/frameworks to which industry may become attached. 
> I know we have
> the Oil and Gas standard and EPISTLE work available but they 
> don't seem to
> be seen as cross-industry activites... even in SC4. 

MW: Don't be so sure. I am working in an IEEE group entitled 
Standard Upper Ontology (SUO). Think of that as aspiring to be
a next generation CYC but entirely in the public domain. I have
been suggesting that an IIDEAS like approach is taken to development
and of course ISO15926-2 is involved. However, this has to be 
translated into KIF, which I am learning is a non-trivial task.

> I don't have a
> particular suggestion and it's possible the O&G and EF work 
> have a wider
> audience than I realize but this kind of thing concerns me.

MW: There is probably more resistance to 15926 inside SC4 than
outside.
> 
> February 28, 2001
> 
>                     Draft Version of The Upper Cyc Ontology 
> in XML Topic
>                     Map Representation. Murray Altheim (Sun 
> Microsystems)

MW: I know, or know of this guy, and Daniel Rivers-Moore certainly
does.

>                     announced the availability of a draft 
> version of the Upper
>                     Cyc Ontology in XTM (XML Topic Map) 
> format. Reference:
>                     Sun Microsystems Technical Report 
> 27-February-2001. The
>                     Technical Report "documents research and 
> development of
>                     an XML Topic Map (XTM) representation of 
> the Upper Cyc
>                     Ontology, including a distribution of 
> five XTM topic maps
>                     based on features of the ontology. The 
> Technical Report
>                     plus any associated software and/or 
> documentation may be
>                     submitted to TopicMaps.Org with the goal 
> of promoting XML
>                     Topic Maps (XTM) as a suitable 
> ontological framework, as
>                     well as a source of XTM Published Subject 
> Indicators
>                     (PSIs)." The Upper Cyc Ontology knowledge 
> base stores
>                     some 3,000 terms "capturing the most 
> general concepts of
>                     human consensus reality; it also 
> represents a vast structure
>                     of more specific concepts descending 
> below this upper level:
>                     logical axioms (rules and other 
> assertions) which specify
>                     constraints on the individual objects and 
> classes found in the
>                     real world."
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> David
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