ARe: Announcing four week review of WG10 N318 on modularized AP contents

Tue Sep 26 11:59:08 EDT 2000

Pascal,
The "normative ARM" for an AP is in the modules along with the mapping
specifications, not the AP document. An informative EXPRESS-G
representation can be in the AP to give the reader a better understanding
of the big picture. To help the reader understand the big picture, that ARM
may change the terminology (but not structure) of the ARM putting it in
terms more specific to an industry. The correspondence between these
industry-specific terms and the names of the application objects in the
modules ARM appears in the AP.

Conformance classes are basically a list of modules now. Those modules must
be used in their entirety. The one exception is that for the "big" module
that includes all the other modules, a subset may be specified as part of
the CC. That subset is a list of the entity types into which that module
maps something (i.e. they appear in the MIM element column of the mapping
table). In thinking more about this I can see your point/question. Perhaps
it would be better if this was a list of the application objects in the big
module instead. Then, in order to understand what to implement there would
be a list of modules and application objects. Do others have opinions about
this?

Any rule that applies to entities in two different modules would have to
appear in a third module that uses the two different modules. An idea has
been discussed that AP/AM teams might only apply this type of rule in the
big module that corresponds to the AP to maximize reusability of the other
modules. This kind of "guideline" will appear in the "Recommended practices
for modules developers" that is on the list of deliverables for the WG10
project. The idea for that deliverable is relatively new so there isn't a
draft ready yet.

Hope these help and thanks for taking the time to review the document!
David

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"Pascal Huau" <pascalhuau at compuserve.com>@compuserve.com on 09/26/2000
03:04:37 AM

Please respond to "Pascal Huau" <pascalhuau at compuserve.com>

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To:   David Price/Bethesda/IBM at IBMUS
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Subject:  ARe: Announcing four week review of WG10 N318 on modularized AP
      contents

David,

I'd like to get some further information about the content of WG10 N308.
Reading this document, I understand that an module-based AP will contain a
Clause 4.2+ARM and a clause 5 defining conformance requirements.
But there will not be any mapping-table nor any full interpreted EXPRESS
schema.

On this basis, my questions are the following:
- if clause 4.2 contains industry terminology, where will we find the
correspondence between these definitions and the IR constructs that finally
will be instantiated?
- what do you mean in WG10N308 clause 4.6 with the bullet "a list of
entities defined in the application module referenced in 4.1 of the AP that
are not included in the conformance class"? What will these entities be: IR
entities or specialization of IRs, or, application objects defined using
industry terminology?
- if this list is not empty, how the implementers will get the complete set
of Express specifications to be implemented (NB: I do not require (yet?) a
full Express schema but I would like to know how to collect all the bits
needed)
- what would happen if an AP needs a rule that apply to entities defined in
different modules? Where would that rule be defined in EXPRESS language?

Regards,
P. Huau
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Subject: Announcing four week review of WG10 N318 on modularized AP
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>
> WG10,
>
> Based on the results of the WG10 STEP Modularization PWI meeting last
week
> and some additional work done this week, the PWI is formally publishing
> WG10 N318 Guidelines for the content of application protocols using
> application modules
> for it's four week WG10 review prior to being submitted for SC4 Standing
> Document ballot per the Bordeaux resolution directing the PWI to do so.
> Please send any comments to the WG10 exploder. The closing date for
> comments is October 17, 2000.
>
> The document can be found at the following URL:
>
>
http://wg10step.aticorp.org/Deliverables/Guidelines/APContent/draft7/apcongd

e07.html
>