[step-manufacturing] Testing digital twin manufacturing using the AS1 assembly

[Martin Hardwick]

Tom and Bryan,

I think I agree with both of you. We want to enable intelligent digital 
twins so that they can help shop floor engineers complete each task as 
efficiently as possible.

Tools for doing so include real-time manufacturing simulators (for 
checking and verification), and intelligent design assistants for making 
trade-offs, such as the one cited for the thickness, material and 
location of the fasteners.

Therefore, the serial number needs to go in the product_definition.id 
because digital twins enable/apply design changes during the manufacturing.

Martin

On 7/18/2022 8:42 PM, Thomas Thurman wrote:
> Bryan,
> Thanks for the requirements!
> They mirror well understood practice using design constraints which is 
> about all I can say.
> When we add simulation requirements in different domains on the serial 
> number, the option of putting the serial number on the 
> product_definition goes away because the product_definition IS the 
> container for each simulator specific collection of properties.
> I really think we should focus on the functional requirements.
> Just my two cents.
> Tom
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 9:36 AM, Bryan Fischer <brfischer at tdp360.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Martin, All
>>
>> I don’t really care which method is used in STEP as long as it works 
>> with the rest of the design / manufacturing / quality / etc. space. I 
>> do care that we enable broader application and extend our ability to 
>> simulate more of the product (via twin or whatever you prefer to call 
>> it).
>>
>> Your description of the benefits of option 2 are intriguing. I’ve had 
>> an idea for some time that I haven’t created a way to do it. I 
>> propose that specifications, specifically tolerances, could and 
>> should be linked. We do that today in very simple cases with MMC 
>> (MMR) and LMC (LMR) modifiers – one interpretation of these 
>> specifications is that the size of the geometric tolerance zone 
>> depends on the size of the feature of size; for example, the larger 
>> the hole, the larger the location tolerance. This is already 
>> addressed in 242.
>>
>> Here's an example of what I envision:
>>
>> Consider a plate or PWB with holes near the edges. To maximize usable 
>> area on the plate, today we optimize the holes such that when they 
>> are at their largest size and maximum mislocation, the edge distance 
>> is enough so the tear out strength exceeds the design requirement. 
>> The edge distance and material properties are enough to overcome 
>> shear. Consider that the thickness of the plate and the material 
>> properties also affect the tear out strength, and these parameters 
>> also have tolerances applied. Ignoring material properties for now, 
>> if the plate is thicker than nominal, we could decrease the edge 
>> distance and maintain the same tear out strength. However, currently 
>> we do not have a mechanism to link the thickness, hole size, and 
>> positional tolerance for the hole. It could be a good idea if such 
>> linkage yielded working parts with less cost. I assume the complexity 
>> of such a situation is not feasible for manual workflows, but for 
>> automated workflows this seems like it could be easy.
>>
>> Martin, I foresee methods specifying tolerances that link separate 
>> specifications, such as the thickness and the hole size/positional 
>> tolerance. Again, today, the thickness and hole size/location are 
>> independent specifications. There are many examples where this sort 
>> of linkage would yield greater allowable variation for parts. 
>> However, since most workflows are manual today, and most design and 
>> analysis are also done manually, and we do not have methods for 
>> defining these specifications yet, this opportunity remains unfulfilled.
>>
>> ***
>>
>> The example above is a machining/cutting example and simple enough to 
>> get my point across. Given that GD&T and GPS are developed for manual 
>> workflows and communication between people in those workflows, the 
>> ultimate result would be defining performance parameters and your 
>> machining twin could optimize all applicable variables to achieve 
>> interchangeable functional parts without specifications defined for 
>> manual workflows, such as GD&T and GPS. No GD&T, no GPS, only 
>> performance parameters, simulation, analysis, and twins.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Bryan Fischer
>>
>> TDP360 LLC
>>
>> Office (503) 625-2480
>>
>> Mobile (503) 260-3084
>>
>> *From:* step-manufacturing <step-manufacturing-bounces at steptools.com> 
>> *On Behalf Of *Martin Hardwick
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 18, 2022 8:00 AM
>> *To:* step-manufacturing at steptools.com
>> *Subject:* [step-manufacturing] Testing digital twin manufacturing 
>> using the AS1 assembly
>>
>> All,
>>
>> We are testing digital twin manufacturing using the AS1 assembly.
>>
>> The assembly is fastened using six nut/bolt combinations, and each 
>> one needs to be given individual identification as it is inserted 
>> into the assembly, so that it can be given unique characteristics and 
>> properties.
>>
>> I think we all agree that at least part of this identification should 
>> be a serial number, but we disagree on how the serial number should 
>> be stored in the STEP data.
>>
>>  1. Option 1 is to store the serial number in the id attribute of the
>>     product entity.
>>  2. Option 2 is to store the serial number in the id attribute of the
>>     product_definition entity.
>>
>> While somewhat arcane, the first definition keeps a clean separation 
>> between design and manufacturing because each of the six products has 
>> a different existence and identification.
>>
>> The second definition enables more data sharing between the instances 
>> which allows for the possibility that design and manufacturing will 
>> occur in tandem, with some design changes occurring during the 
>> manufacturing, and this is one of the goals of digital twin 
>> manufacturing.
>>
>> -- 
>> Martin Hardwick
>> President STEP Tools, Inc.
>> Cell: 518 253-0596
>> "There are billions of STEP files and millions of STEP-NC files"
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Martin Hardwick
President STEP Tools, Inc.
Cell: 518 253-0596
"There are billions of STEP files and millions of STEP-NC files"
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