[step-manufacturing] Minutes of August 13th conference call
Martin Hardwick
hardwick at steptools.com
Fri Aug 15 15:02:20 EDT 2014
Attendees
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Martin Hardwick, STEP Tools, USA
David Loffredo, STEP Tools, USA
Julie Huang, Sandvik Sweden
Alain Brail, Airbus (retired), France
Mike Restall, Sandvik, USA
David Odendahl, Boeing, USA
Sid Venkatesh, Boeing, USA
Leon Xu, Boeing, USA
Jim Kosmala, Okuma, USA
Thanh Huynh, Okuma, USA
Bob Baldizzi, Okuma, USA
Paul Kingsley, Okuma, USA
Rod Tojdowski, Okuma, USA
Thanh Huynh, Okuma, USA
Brian Sides, Okuma, USA
Vincent Marchetti, Ameritech, USA
Wayne Myers, Gosinger, USA
Zhigang Wang, Makino, USA
The press release for the IMTS demonstration was sent on July 31st.
We agreed that it is becoming inappropriate to discuss details of a
demonstration to be given in the Okuma booth at IMTS in a public domain
(ISO) conference call.
We discussed the advantages of replacing the multiple different formats
used by the CAM industry for process data with STEP-NC.
Each CAM vendor has its own data format for communicating the process
data designed in its system to the developers of post processors. The
most well known is the NCI format of Mastercam. The formats are designed
to be simple to convert into G-codes. The conversion is usually done by
third parties who know the coordinate configurations of the machine, and
the preferences of the customer. For the customer the cost of developing
and maintaining the postprocessor is an undesired cost and the cause of
errors because of misunderstanding between the CAM operators, the
post-processor developers, the CNC operators and the machine tool builders.
Several attempts have been made to replace the CAM outputs with with a
single standardized file. APT-CL was an early example but it did not
have enough functionality and too many flavors were added to create that
functionality. BCL was another example. Its features were more closely
controlled but it failed because the cost of developing and maintaining
a post processor from BCL was greater than the cost of developing and
maintaining one from the CAM export formats.
The CAM export formats have the advantage of working closely with the
CAM systems so the post-processor writer can visualize what is going on
by looking at the process definition in the CAM system. APT-CL and BCL
do not have a model of the stock or workpiece so process visualization
is very difficult. STEP-NC is different because it includes geometry
models for all of the key elements including the stock and workpiece but
also the cutting tools, fixtures and machine. Therefore, the process can
be understood in context and systems such as STEP-NC Machine can show
simulations to further enforce data correctness.
Consequently we discussed whether the industry can replace the
non-standard CAM file formats with ISO 10303-238 STEP-NC. For the CAM
industry there is the cost of developing the software to export the new
data. We estimate this cost to be about $100K including two months of
work and the cost of purchasing a STEP toolkit. The cost is low because
all the geometry models are already being made in CAD so they only have
to be linked into the process model.
In return the CAM vendor can reduce costs by no longer having to manage
a post-processor industry. The potential price is the loss of business
if the end user can change between CAM vendors more easily. A leading
vendor will have the winning functionality and an emerging vendor will
like the reduced costs for market entry, but the other vendors will
worry about the customers currently locked into their post-processor base.
A recording of the call is on the ftp site.
ftp://www.steptools.com/private/CAM_exchange/Cycle_4/stepmanuf_telecon_20140813.wmv
The next conference call will be held at the regular times on Wednesday
August 20th
Martin Hardwick
Team Leader ISO STEP-Manufacturing
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