[step-manufacturing] RE: Meeting schedule for WG7 and SC1 inFrankfurt/Germany

Tue Aug 21 11:53:51 EDT 2007

Dear Everyone,

To add my observations on Ian Stroud's comment on Professor Suh's patent. 

While it may be arguably appropriate for a patent to protect a researchers interests for specific CAD algorithms, however, that does not seem to be the nature of the patent application on this occasion. 

The approach identified in the patent represents a (the) logical sequence for using manufacturing features and forms a central premise for the creation of a set of manufacturing features used in all of the STEP manufacturing domain.  It would seem to be the 'intended usage' rather than the result of necessarily innovative academic or commercial research.

For example (c)  involves:-

(c1) selecting an machining operation defined by the ISO 14649 for each of the manufacturing features; 
(c2) setting process data for the selected machining operation, the process data containing cutting tools information, a machining strategy designating a basic machining pattern, cutting conditions including a tool-accessing/withdrawing method, a cutting depth, an RPM and a feed rate, tool path connecting method and information instructing whether or not to use cutting oil; 
(c3) creating workingsteps based on the manufacturing features and the corresponding machining operations; 
(c4) grouping the workingsteps in accordance with a setup; and 
(c5) determining a sequence of the workingsteps.

This sequence will be recognized by vendors of existing software.  

Without doubting the good  intentions of Prof. Suh, I am concerned by the association of a patent with the use (as intended) of an International Standard, which has received voluntary contributions from many countries/organizations, also needs to be considered.

Best regards Alan Crawford

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From: step-manufacturing-bounces at steptools.com [mailto:step-manufacturing-bounces at steptools.com] On Behalf Of Stroud Ian Anthony
Sent: 17 August 2007 09:08
To: Martin Hardwick; Suk-Hwan Suh; Mr. Proctor (NIST); ???; ???; ??; ???; Glantschnig1; Hascoet; HENTZ Jean-Bernard; HYSakamoto; marchand (CETIM-Fr); Ms V.Maupin ; protic catherine; Rossi; Sakamoto Chiaki; Suk-Hwan SUH; vankhai.nguyen at etat.ge.ch; vitr; wesche
Cc: step-manufacturing at steptools.com
Subject: [step-manufacturing] RE: Meeting schedule for WG7 and SC1 inFrankfurt/Germany

Dear Martin Hardwick and Everyone,

This is just to inform you that I intend to attend the Frankfurt SC1/WG7 meeting.  You mentioned that Mr. Sakamoto will represent T24, is there any particular question that is due to be discussed?

I have a couple of comments about your mention of Professor Suh's patent.  First of all, I think that this is now a tendency, to protect academic research by patents because industry has, in the past, been all too ready to exploit published academic research without reimbursing either the original researchers or the funding agencies.  This area of Intellectual Property seems very fuzzy and patent applications seem a natural tool for protecting researcher's interests.  I see what look suspiciously like my published algorithms in CAD systems and I certainly haven't received any royalties.  More importantly, since academics are now evaluate, probably almost everywhere, the lack of credit by commercial companies is a problem.  Forcing commercial companies to acknowledge their use of academic work is also important.  Finally, as far as I can see, Professor Suh's patent is a protection for further research.  It is far better that the patent is in the hands of one of us than in the hands of some commercial vendor who might limit our research.  I certainly trust Professor Suh not to block either academic or commercial developments.  Even if a fee is payable to cover the cost of the original patent application I would be able to justify a one-off payment as part of a project.  Is this to be discussed in Frankfurt?

Best regards - Ian Stroud

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From: Martin Hardwick [mailto:hardwick at steptools.com] 
Sent: mardi, 7. août 2007 19:04
To: Suk-Hwan Suh; Mr. Proctor (NIST); ???; ???; ??; ???; Glantschnig1; Hascoet; HENTZ Jean-Bernard; 'HYSakamoto'; Stroud Ian Anthony; marchand (CETIM-Fr); Ms V.Maupin ; protic catherine; Rossi; Sakamoto Chiaki; Suk-Hwan SUH; vankhai.nguyen at etat.ge.ch; vitr; wesche
Cc: step-manufacturing at steptools.com
Subject: Re: Meeting schedule for WG7 and SC1 in Frankfurt/Germany

Dear Members of T24,

At our last meeting in Ibusuki we agreed that Mr. Sakamoto of Japan and the deputy leader of T24 would represent us at the S1/Wg7 meeting in Frankfurt. 

If you plan to attend this meeting please be aware that there is a patent on ISO 14649 implementation held by Professor Suh.

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6795749-claims.html

Martin Hardwick
Team Leader T24 STEP-Manufacturing

At 05:24 AM 8/7/2007, Suk-Hwan Suh wrote:

Dear All: 

As the Convener of ISO TC184/SC1/WG7, I would like to invite you to the Joint Meeting between ISO TC184/SC1/WG7 & ISO TC184/SC4/T24 within the framework of 16th Annual Meeting for ISO TC184/SC1 to be held in Frankfurt/Germany as follows.

1. Time table

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<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />08:00 - 12:00

12:00-13:30

13:30 - 17:00

Meeting Place

Oct 1 (Mo)

WG7/T24

Lunch

WG7/T24

VDMA

Oct 2 (Tu)

WG7/T24

Lunch

SC1 Plenary

VDMA

Oct 3 (We)*

WG7/T24

Lunch

WG7/T24

Hotel INNSIDE*

2. Agenda (See attachment for details) 

2nd Ed of ISO 14649; Part 1, Part 10, Part 11, Part 12, Part 111, Part 121 NWIP for ISO 14649 Part 110 NWIP/DIS ISO 14649 Part 13, Part 14 NWIPs for Inspection, RP, Robot, etc. 

3. Special note 
   October 3 is National Holiday in Germany, and VDMA will be closed. For the Meeting on Oct 3, Mr. Rossi, Chair of SC1, picked up a hotel (INNSIDE) located opposite VDMA under the followng conditions: 

fee per person: 52EUR (incl. lunch, coffee, softdrinks) minimum 6 persons persons must stay over night in same hotel (hotel INNSIDE, located opposite VDMA) cancellation until September 1st possible (with no costs) 

4. Request for reply by August 25 
  As stated in Item 3, for the Oct 3rd Meeting, at least 6 persons should stay over night. Please send us the following information by August 25 (Please mark one for all items): 

I will attend WG7/T24 Meeting on Oct 1 (Y/N) I will attend WG7/T24 Meeting on Oct 2 (Y/N) I will attend WG7/T24 Meeting on Oct 3 (Y/N); If "Y," I will stay in Hotel INNSIDE (Y/N) 

5. The followings are attached: 

Draft agenda for WG7& T24 Hotel information; provided by Mr. Wesche, Secretariat of SC1 VDMA Travel Direction; provided by Mr. Wesche, Secretariat of SC1 Agenda for TC184/SC1 Plenary Meeting (2-4 PM, Oct 2) provided by Mr. Wesche, Secretariat of SC1 Invitation to 16th SC1 Plenary Meeting/SC1; provided by Mr. Wesche, Secretariat of SC1 Resolutions from 15th SC1 Meeting (Hershey, Oct 2006); provided by Mr. Wesche, Secretariat of SC1 

Best regards

Suk-Hwan SUH, Convener of ISO TC184/SC1/WG7 
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Director of Center for Ubiquitous Manufacturing 
Director of National Research Lab for STEP-NC/e-mfg 
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