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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=870064614-19102001>Pascal,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=870064614-19102001></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=870064614-19102001>On "</SPAN>As regards
symbols ?, *, +, %, a little explanation in a note at the begining of P28 would
not cost a lot of effort.<SPAN class=870064614-19102001>" - neither would
peeking at the definitive XML Spec. ISO guidelines make the point of
telling us not to repeat things from normative references. When we
write the short form of an AP AIM we don't repeat the definition of "product"
from Part 41 either even though it would be easy to do in a note. The concern is
that there's no end to what people might want to put in a note. You can't
remember what * and + mean but others might not understand
NMTOKEN while others might not understand PCDATA or #IMPLIED. You can
make a case to repeat the whole XML Spec because you can't know what each
reader can't quite remember.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=870064614-19102001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=870064614-19102001>I'll repeat something I proposed in the P28 project but
could never get agreed... SC4 should publish this part in HTML!!!
Then it could link to the XML Spec and address issues like this very
easily.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=870064614-19102001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=870064614-19102001>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=870064614-19102001>David</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pascal Huau
[mailto:pascalhuau@goset.asso.fr]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 2001 October 19
14:40<BR><B>To:</B> David Price<BR><B>Cc:</B> WG11<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Various issues on WG11N173<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I do not know what the other think but I do not
find very satisfactory to find in P28 examples of elements (e;g. Notation and
Entity) that obviously would have a meaning with respect to the other data in
the file but that are not explained in P28.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As regards symbols ?, *, +, %, a little
explanation in a note at the begining of P28 would not cost a lot of
effort.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Pascal Huau<BR>Association GOSET<BR>107,111 avenue Clemenceau<BR>92000
Nanterre<BR>France</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=david.price@eurostep.com
href="mailto:david.price@eurostep.com">David Price</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=wg11@steptools.com
href="mailto:wg11@steptools.com">WG11</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 19, 2001 2:09
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Various issues on
WG11N173</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=710285211-19102001>All,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=710285211-19102001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=710285211-19102001>A
quick response to a few of Pascal's issues:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=710285211-19102001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=710285211-19102001>1,
2, 11 and 12 - The audience of Part 28 is an implementor who
is fluent in EXPRESS and the XML 1.0 Recommendation. Therefore, repeating
the definitions found in the XML spec for ?, *, +, %, ENTITY, NOTATION,
etc. in the XML syntax is not appropriate info to be included in Part
28. The XML Spec is freely available on the Web and, to be frank, if
P28 becomes popular it's more likely the readers won't know EXPRESS than
that they won't know XML.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=710285211-19102001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=710285211-19102001><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=710285211-19102001>David</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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