[wg11] WG11 Sessions in Stockholm

[Phil Spiby]

Keith,

I think you are moving in the right direction ;-)
I still believe that we should address P21 being based on Ed1, it should at least be based on the results of Annex G in Ed 2.

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Hunten, Keith A [mailto:keith.a.hunten at lmco.com] 
Sent: 07 June 2012 15:26
To: Phil Spiby; David Loffredo; Jochen Haenisch
Cc: wg11 at steptools.com; Hans Karsten Dahl
Subject: RE: [wg11] WG11 Sessions in Stockholm

Phil -

Tom proposes that we change Annex G to no longer reference ed1, curing this issue, and then working only on ed2.

Keith



-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Spiby [mailto:phil.spiby at eurostep.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 8:58 AM
To: David Loffredo; Jochen Haenisch
Cc: wg11 at steptools.com; Hans Karsten Dahl; Hunten, Keith A
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [wg11] WG11 Sessions in Stockholm

Folks,

I still have a hard time understanding the rationale for applying a TC to Edition 1. The ONLY reason for edition 1 being required is because Part21 was never updated to dealt with an EXPRESS edition 2 longform.
Surely it would be better to update Part21 to cope with EXPRESS edition 2 longform than updating both edition 1 and edition 2 of EXPRESS (since updates made to edition 1 that are not in edition 2 need to be made to edition 2 also to ensure that they are kept in sync).

Based on the fact that TC2 was issued to ISO (but never got there) in 2000, we need to address all SEDS since 2000 against edition 1. Those SEDS against EXPRESS since 2004 will probably be against edition 2 not edition 1 so there would have to be critical review to decide if they even apply to edition 1.

Phil

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From: wg11-bounces at steptools.com [mailto:wg11-bounces at steptools.com] On Behalf Of David Loffredo
Sent: 07 June 2012 14:37
To: Jochen Haenisch
Cc: wg11 at steptools.com; Hans Karsten Dahl; keith.a.hunten at lmco.com
Subject: Re: [wg11] WG11 Sessions in Stockholm


Hi Jochen,

Thanks for digging those up.  We can certainly discuss them during the plenary after we have figured out what the work plan looks like.

Cheers,
						- Dave



On 6/7/2012 4:13 AM, Jochen Haenisch wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> As we are in update mode: I found the attached set of P11 SEDS on my 
> laptop with submission dates after 2004. Should we take the (rare ;-)
> ) opportunity of a WG11 meeting to evaluate these?
>
> Best regards,
> Jochen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wg11-bounces at steptools.com [mailto:wg11-bounces at steptools.com]
> On Behalf Of David Loffredo
> Sent: 11. mai 2012 13:51
> To: Phil Spiby
> Cc: wg11 at steptools.com
> Subject: Re: [wg11] WG11 Sessions in Stockholm
>
>
> Nope, Keith Hunten would like to publish a TC to the first edition to
> add an ASN/1 identifier to the schema name.   It's not entirely clear
> how that would be done from the ISO procedural side.
>
> 						- Dave
>
>
> On 5/11/2012 4:02 AM, Phil Spiby wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> I assume you mean EXPRESS ed2 not ed1.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wg11-bounces at steptools.com [mailto:wg11-bounces at steptools.com]
> On Behalf Of David Loffredo
>> Sent: 10 May 2012 19:17
>> To: wg11 at steptools.com
>> Subject: [wg11] WG11 Sessions in Stockholm
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Below is the tentative schedule of meetings for Stockholm.
>>
>>      Monday June 11 - 10:30am to noon - WG11 Plenary
>>      Monday June 11 - 1pm - 5pm - Joint Meeting on External 
>> Referencing
>>
>> I have scheduled a plenary session at the traditional time to discuss
> SEDS on EXPRESS, the possibility of another TC to EXPRESS ed1, and any 
> new business that comes up.
>>
>> Later in the day I have scheduled a joint session to discuss ways
>> WG11
> can assist with externally referenced data in APs.  STEP CAD files 
> with externally referenced shape are now more widely used, and several 
> groups are looking at splitting other types of AP data across multiple 
> files (PMI, kinematics, machining process, cutting tools).  To date, 
> this has been handled at the information model level, but there may be 
> infrastructure things that WG11 can do to help.  T24 and LOTAR have 
> been invited, other groups with an interest are welcome.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> 					- Dave (WG11 Convener)
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