Final technical agreement sought for EXPRESS 2

Phil Spiby Phil.Spiby at eurostep.com
Thu Apr 17 10:40:53 EDT 2003


David,

I have a problem with the approach of "lets not bother with this because the
current implementations don't handle it". If we are adopting this approach
then perhaps we shouldn't map constants and global rules. And if the target
is P21 implementation then we don't need to map derived attributes or
inverse attributes either since these are ignored in P21 implementations.

With regard to comments I don't have a problem with this, since it at least
forces the implementers to read the couple of hundred modules documents
before they start implementing!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-wg11 at steptools.com 
> [mailto:owner-wg11 at steptools.com] On Behalf Of David Price
> Sent: 17 April 2003 15:22
> To: wg11 at steptools.com
> Subject: RE: Final technical agreement sought for EXPRESS 2
> 
> 
> I support not mapping use/reference visibility restrictions 
> into global rules. I don't think implementors are worried 
> about this and the long form is really for implementors.
> 
> I support not mapping any comments at all as mapping some 
> will lead to confusion.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-wg11 at steptools.com
> > [mailto:owner-wg11 at steptools.com] On Behalf Of Phil Spiby
> > Sent: 17 April 2003 14:46
> > To: wg11 at steptools.com
> > Subject: Final technical agreement sought for EXPRESS 2
> > 
> > 
> > Folks,
> > 
> > There are two technical issues on the short to long form
> > generator that, as far as I can, see there was no recorded 
> agreement.
> > 
> > 1. Distinction of first and second class entities in the
> > longform. This was proposed and there were discussions around 
> > how to form the required global rule(s). This is not 
> > currently in the draft, but I haven't seen where the 
> > agreement to pull it from the draft was taken. I would prefer 
> > to see this in the document, but if there has been agreement 
> > to remove it, or if there is no agreement on how to do it 
> > available in the next week, then I suggest we leave things as 
> > they are. Although I feel this is another opportunity to do 
> > things correctly which has gone begging!
> > 
> > 2. Mapping of comments.
> > This has also been discussed and Peter pointed out that since
> > there was no association of comments it was impossible. 
> > However, the tagged comment capability provides an 
> > association, which could be mapped through. I suggest we map 
> > through tagged comments, and all other comments are dropped 
> > (as done at present).
> > 
> > Phil
> > 
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