WG11 Minutes from San Diego

[Dave Loffredo]

The minutes from San Diego are also on the web site as wg11n205, the
following URL will get you there.

http://www.tc184-sc4.org/SC4_Open/SC4_and_Working_Groups/WG11/N-DOCS/Files/wg11n205_sandiego_minutes.txt


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TC184/SC4/WG11/N205 San Diego Minutes
2003-03-09 to 2002-03-14

Opening Plenary Mon 10:30-Noon	
ATTENDEES 
Lothar Klein		DE	lothar.klein at lksoft.com
Guenter Staub		DE	staub at pdtec.de
Takashi Inouye		JP	inouye at fqs.fujitsu.com
Yasumasa Oku		JP	y-oku at ab.jp.nec.com
Shinichi Yoshioka	JP	syoshioka at ecom.jp
Jochen Haenisch		NO	jochen.haenisch at epmtech.jotne.com
Dave Loffredo		US	loffredo at steptools.com
Jeff Young		US	jyoung at steptools.com


PROGRESS AND STATUS OF WG11 PROJECTS

Part 11 Ammendment / Edition 2 - status 10.99
	Reporting - Jochen Haenisch
	Meeting Tue 3:30-5

	Draft document for FDIS currently being reviewed. Contains
	combined text of 1994, DAM and TCs, all issue resolutions,
	updated procedures for converting E2 constructs to E1,
	converting shortform to longform, and updated EXPRESS-G
	diagrams

	Discussed and resolved issues in San Diego:
	 - All remaining DAM issues resolved (mainly definitions)
	 - No language version identifier: will be addressed by a
           Technical Corrigendum

	Issues due to document review, resolved:
	- GENERIC valid as attribute type in the grammar, but
	  manually restricted to be invalid!

	- Tagged comments included with qualified references
	- E2 to E1 - for purely renamed attributes (rules and 
	  example enhanced)
	- E2 to E1 - GENERIC_ENTITY in funcs and procs

	- short to long - rules for REFERENCEd entity data types
	- E2 to E1 - elimination of unreferenced defined TYPEs
	- E2 to E1 - individual where-rules for each SELECT 
	  local rule

	Internal QC check on-going (done by ATI).  The project leader
	and convenor checklists still to be done.  When the document is 
	ready for Project Leader review, it will also be circulated to 
	the wg11 mail list.  

	Still need details of SEDS closures for Secretariat

	Scheduled for Secretariat by end of March 2003

	More detailed status presentation available as wg11n211.

Part 12  - published 1997-07-15

Part 14 - status 30.99
	Reporting -- Jeff Young
	Meetings Mon 1-5, Tue 8-5, Thu 8-5

 	DIS ballot ran from 2002-04-02 to 2002-10-25
	Passed with 100% approval, so no FDIS needed.  
	Ballot results available in sc4n1387. 

	At San Diego, the project reviewed editorial fixes since
	Funchal, then discussed resolution of DIS ballot comments.
	There were 51 comments from 5 countries.  

	The project reached agreement on resolution for all comments,
	and updated the document with resolutions for 39 of the issues
	during the meeting.  Develoment of the text for remaining 12
	fixes were assigned as action items.

	When complete, circulate updated document for a 4-week wg11
	review before sending to ISO for publication.

Part 21e2 - No report, published 2002-01-15
Part 22	- No report, published 1998-12-15
	Under 5 Year Review
	SEDS listed as open
	311, 340, 393, 394, 395, 396, 397, 398, 399, 400, 401,
	402, 403, 404, 405, 406, 409, 497


Part 23	- No report, published 2000-12-01
Part 24 - No report, published 2001-12-15

Part 25 - status 30.20
	Reporting -- David Price (via DL)
	No meetings

	DTS ballot failed 2002-07-25, results available in
	document sc4n1356. Project leader has prepared responses to
	80% of the comments  Remaining discussion on "lean mapping"
	concept continuing on wg11 exploder, may be deferred to a
	second edition. When updated, circulate for new DTS ballot.


Part 26 - No report, cancelled
Part 27 - No report, published 2000-11-15

Part 28 - status 30.92
	Reporting -- Heidi Preston (via DL)
	No meetings

	The P28 Edition One document was returned by ISO for some
	minor editorial corrections (copyright date, etc.)  Sent to
	Heidi, needs to be corrected and sent back to Geneva.

	The P28 Edition Two project is currently holding bi-weekly
	telecons and refining the working draft in preparation for the
	CD ballot. Estimate ballot document will be ready by early May.

	Base language 90% complete.  No remaining major technical issues.
	Finalizing configuration language options: 
	 - Support for single-level attribute representation
 	 - Re-declaration and inheritance free options
 	 - Handling of scalars 


Part 29 - No report, cancelled
Part 31 - No report, published 1994-12-31 status 90.93
Part 32 - No report, published 2000-01-04
	Under 5-year Review

Part 33 - No report, cancelled 
Part 34 - No report, published 2001-02-01

Part 35 - status 30.95
	Reporting -- Lothar Klein
	No meetings

	Still waiting for updated document incorporating Stockholm
	fixes.  When the document is complete, circulate for a 4-wk
	wg11 review before forwarding for TS publication.   



NEW BUSINESS 

WG11 notes that work being done in 10303-57 has strong similarities
to portions of the SDAI dictionary models and the EXPRESS-in-EXPRESS
meta-model developed for EXPRESS-3 and calls for experts to closely
review this work to avoid conflicts between the models.

As shown below, parts 22 and 32 are currently undergoing a five year
systematic review ballot.  This is a six month ballot.   The Part 27 
Java SDAI specification will begin it three year TS review ballot in
the near future.   Since this is one of the first TS docs published 
by ISO, the procedures are still being worked out.

    ISO 10303-22:1998, STEP Part 22, Implementation method: 
    Standard data access interface specification
       - Ballot Closes: 2003-06-05
       - See document sc4n1409

    ISO 10303-32, STEP Part 32, Conformance testing methodology and
    framework: Requirements for testing laboratories and clients
       - Ballot Closes 2003-06-05
       - See document sc4n1410