WG11: who attends San Diego

[Phil Spiby]

Jochen,

There was no criticism meant in my message at all, just a statement of
facts.
I have reviewed The EXPRESS-G annex and sent comments back to Jochen and
Peter, I have also had a look at the e2->e1 and short->long algorithms, but
not commented on that yet since I need to see more on the changes to e2
first to work out if the proposed mappings capture the semantics correctly.

In summary, we need to get the work done on what E2 is completed as soon as
possible. The mappings etc all depend on this. The Ballot resolutions were
completed in June and I guess there may still be problems with the
understanding of those resolutions since there is still a chance of
contradiction etc. Jochen has been doing an excellent job of catching the
contradictions so far, but the fact remains this work still has to be
reviewed internally to WG11 before wider distribution. I have seen what
happens if a draft document with a couple of mistakes in it is sent out to
the modellers. If they use these mistakes we are unable to remove them
later, and have to work out elaborate schemes to include the mistake into
the design of the language!

Phil
(Worried of UK!)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jochen Haenisch [mailto:Jochen.Haenisch at epmtech.jotne.com] 
> Sent: 10 February 2003 07:17
> To: 'Phil.Spiby at eurostep.com'; 'WG11 exploder'
> Cc: Howard Mason
> Subject: RE: WG11: who attends San Diego
> 
> 
> Hei,
> 
> of course, I agree that funding would be a good option. 
> Nontheless, it is not fair against Peter and King to say that 
> there was not major progress. Peter completed the procedures 
> for e2-to-e1 and short-to-long and updated the Express-G 
> diagrams. That I have not been as productive, is a different 
> issue. I will work more on this until San Diego and also 
> thereafter. Review of the document by experienced 
> Express-people is critical. Peter's work is ready for such a 
> review. I am not sure whether Phil can do this with the 
> limited resources he has available.
> 
> Are there other sparring partners out there for quality 
> assurance of the P11-document?
> 
> Best regards, Jochen. 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Phil Spiby [SMTP:Phil.Spiby at eurostep.com]
> > Sent:	7. februar 2003 23:10
> > To:	'Jochen Haenisch'; 'WG11 exploder'
> > Cc:	Howard Mason
> > Subject:	RE: WG11: who attends San Diego
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am not planning on attending due to no funding.
> > 
> > Looking at the information from Jochen has sent me there 
> doesn't seem 
> > to be major progress since last July which worries me 
> significantly. 
> > Even if we put significant effort into the documentation 
> task I doubt 
> > if we will have a
> > document ready for wide review until April at the earliest 
> now. I guess we
> > are just going to have to suffer the consequences of not 
> funding this
> > work.
> > 
> > Phil
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-wg11 at steptools.com
> > > [mailto:owner-wg11 at steptools.com] On Behalf Of Jochen Haenisch
> > > Sent: 06 February 2003 16:56
> > > To: 'WG11 exploder'
> > > Subject: WG11: who attends San Diego
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > who will attend the WG11 meetings in San Diego and is
> > > interested in P11e2? We consider a walk-through of the draft FDIS.
> > > 
> > > Best regards, Jochen.
> > > ____________________________________________________________
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> > > Jochen.Haenisch at epmtech.jotne.com
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> 23 17 17 01  
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> > > 
> > > 
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