WG11 minutes from Myrtle Beach

[Dave Loffredo]

Here are the minutes from Myrtle Beach covering the WG11 opening
plenary, the results presented at the closing SC4 plenary, and things
that happened at the the SC4 friday meeting.  

Please note new business items #1, #2, and #4, which came up at the
SC4 meeting on Friday.


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TC184/SC4/WG11 Myrtle Beach Minutes
2002-02-24 to 2002-03-01

Opening Plenary Mon 10:30-Noon	
ATTENDEES 
Lothar Klein		DE	lothar.klein at lksoft.com
Guenter Staub		DE	staub at pdtec.de
Pascal Huau		FR	pascalhuau at compuserv.com
Takashi Inouye		JP	inouye at fqs.fujitsu.com
Yoshihito Kikuchi	JP	kikuchi at eli.hokkai-s-u.ac.jp
Jochen Haenisch		NO	jochen.haenisch at epmtech.jotne.com
Tom Hendrix		US	thomas.e.hendrix at boeing.com
Dave Loffredo		US	loffredo at steptools.com
Peter Wilson		US	peter.r.wilson at boeing.com
Phil Spiby		UK	phil.spiby at eurostep.com
Howard Mason		SEC	howard.mason at baesystems.com


PROGRESS AND STATUS OF WG11 PROJECTS

Part 11 Ammendment / Edition 2
	Reporting - Phil Spiby
	The amendment (wg11n153) DIS ballot completed 2001-10-17, and
	passed with about 70 technical and editorial comments.

	During the meeting, the project team resolved all major
	technical comments except German comment requesting a new
	'weak ONE OF' concept.  The changes include:
	- add conformance class for EXPRESS v1 (94+TCs)
	- add Annex defining mapping from EXPRESS v2 'short form' to
	  EXPRESS v1 'long form'
	- remove GENERIC attribute capability
	- clean up GENERIC_ENTITY and GENERIC_ENTITY SELECT, may be
	  same feature.
	- clarify/correct TOTAL_OVER and EXPRESS-G.
	- clarify EXTENSIBLE ENUMERATION rules

	The plan is to finish resolution via email/telecon, produce
	combined (1994+TCs+amend) document for FDIS before October.

	Since the Annex described above will be normative and will
	contain technical material that has not been balloted yet,
	SC4 adopted action item #94 that directs WG11 to circulate 
	the draft annex to the P-members, in parallel with internal
	WG11 review, prior to signoff for FDIS ballot.


Part 14
	Reporting - Martin Hardwick (via DL)
	All CD ballot comments have been resolved and the document
	is undergoing signoff review.  When the issue log is complete,
	the document will be submitted for DIS ballot.


Part 21 Edition 2 - No report, published
Part 22	- No report, published
Part 23	- No report, published
Part 24 - No report, published

Part 25 - 
	Reporting - David Price (via DL)
	Issues resolved, updated document ready.  Waiting for convenor
	signoff to submit for PDTS ballot.  

Part 26 - No report, cancelled
Part 27 - No report, published

Part 28 
	Reporting - Joe Trausch
	Edition One (wg11n190) was forwarded to secretariat for TS
	publication on 2002-01-09.

	There was no team report at the opening plenary, but there
	was discussion over a set of post-ballot comments that were
	still outstanding in the final Edition One TS document.  

	The recommended procedure to address this is to produce a
	corrected document, then ballot as a minor revision.  This 
	will be a 4wk confirmation ballot as per WG12 procedures
	for handling TCs.   This discussion led to SC4 resolution 
	#526, see the New Business section below for details.

	Joe Trausch has been appointed project leader and Thomas
	Liebich has been appointed editor for Part 28 Edition Two.

	At the meeting, the project reviewed two binding proposals 
	and a list of issues, and reached consensus on following for
	Edition Two:
	- Finalized list of requirements.
	- Will define single default mapping from EXPRESS to XML
	  schema-based binding.
	- The default mapping will use XML reference rather than XML
	  containment.
	- Will define a configuration language that allows control
	  over some aspects of the XML structure.

	The goal is to have a complete draft for review at Stockholm.


Part 29 - No report
Part 34 - No report, published

Part 35
	Reporting - Lothar Klein
	Document wg11n153 passed CD ballot on 2001-10-15, with
	about 10-15 editorial comments.   During the week of the
	meeting all comments were resolved.  Over the next month
	or so, an updated document will be produced

	According to the new TS procedure (see below), the updated
	document will be circulated to WG11 for an internal review,
	before signoff and forwarding for publication as TS.


NEW BUSINESS 

ITEM 1
At the WG11 opening plenary, the discussion of missed P28 comments
revealed a weakness in the current TS procedures.  This prompted SC4
resolution #526, which describes the procedure for verifying changes
on documents destined for TS publication.  Before signoff:

	- if editorial changes -- Circulate for WG11 review
	- if technical changes -- Internal review, plus send to
		P-members for 4wk confirmatory ballot.

Essentially, this new procedure acts as an "FDIS" ballot for TS docs.

For documents destined for IS publication, the existing CD, DIS, FDIS
ballot schedule verifies changes.  Project leaders and editors should
always confirm comment resolutions with the comment originators.

ITEM 2 
WG11 has been directed to investigate updating the 20-series for the
EXPRESS amendment.  WG11 will begin investigating NWIs to update Part
21 and the SDAI parts (22-24,27,29) to do this.  Currently, people are
needed to develop the NWIs for each of these efforts.

ITEM 3
On Thursday (2002-02-28), there was a meeting to discuss requirements
for future editions of the SDAI.  Discussed options for increasing and
decreasing the range of SDAI operations in SDAI bindings.  There was
insufficient participation to determine any consensus.  

There will be another meeting in Stockholm to gather requirements.
Also this meeting will discuss whether these reqs should be included
in the scope of the "update to EXPRESS-2" NWI mentioned above.

ITEM 4
In Fukuoka, SC4 passed a resolution directing WG11 to prepare a NWI
for conformance testing of the Part 28.  There has been no response to
a WG11 call, so SC4 will issue the call to the P-members directly.