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<DIV><SPAN class=760003807-02012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Max,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=760003807-02012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Two
things</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=760003807-02012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
agree that reviews should qualify their comments in the same way for any ballot.
Since the module are HTML pages it makes sense to use clause, paragraph
rather than page numbers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=760003807-02012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
PDES program you refer to is one I have developed. It could be used for any
ballot - not just HTML documents. The person setting up the ballot sets up a
control file with a list of the documents, clauses, issue categories. This file
goes to the people doing the review.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=760003807-02012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
program is available at </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=760003807-02012001><SPAN
class=160595108-24102000><A href="http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~cev/"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~cev/</FONT></A></SPAN>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-wg10@steptools.com
[mailto:owner-wg10@steptools.com]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Max
Ungerer<BR><B>Sent:</B> 18 December 2000 17:44<BR><B>To:</B> David
Price<BR><B>Cc:</B> jfowler@pdtsolutions.co.uk; qc@cme.nist.gov;
wg10@steptools.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Required PDF for STEP Modules
Ballot<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>David et al,<BR><BR>I learned at the Charleston
meeting, that PDES developped a ballot submission tool which works with the
HTML version of modules and allows for gathering issues, preparing national
votes, etc. <BR>The guidelines for reviewers to qualify their comments should
be the same whether they are using the tool or doing it by
hand.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Max<BR><BR><BR><BR>At 12:07 18.12.2000 +0000,
Julian Fowler wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite type="cite">David et al<BR><BR>For the purposes
established by the SC4 resolution, the sample file <BR>attached to your
message looks fine to me. Noting the lack of page <BR>numbers, and given
that the HTML is regarded as the master document, <BR>I think that it would
be useful to ask reviewers to qualify their <BR>comments by clause,
paragraph, and sentence (rather than, for <BR>example, "third line on page
7") when submitting issues.<BR><BR>A note in the "comments to reader"
stating that the document has been <BR>prepared using HTML and that there
are some minor deviations from the <BR>final presentation/layout
requirements would also be useful to avoid <BR>non-value-added comments
during ballot.<BR><BR>regards<BR>Julian<BR><BR><BR>On 2000-12-13 at 11:36,
you wrote:<BR><BR>> WG10 and QC,<BR>> <BR>> As you hopefully are
aware, an SC4 resolution was passed that allows<BR>> the suite of STEP
application modules currently being developed in<BR>> HTML to go out for
ballot as a web site rather than as paper. That<BR>> resolution
said that the documents going out for ballot in HTML must<BR>> also be
accompanied by a printable version (i.e. a PDF) so that people<BR>> can
review the documents on airplanes, etc. As you might surmise,<BR>>
generating PDF from a linked set of web pages is not simple and so<BR>>
concerns have arisen as to how to do this and what the requirements
on<BR>> the PDF might be. The modules developers are working on
this and need<BR>> our help.<BR>> <BR>> Attached is a PDF generated
from one module that will go out for<BR>> ballot in a few weeks.
The modules developers are asking what changes<BR>> are required by SC4
in order for this to meet the requirements for "a<BR>> printable version"
of the module. I'll warn you that it is ugly<BR>> compared to a
traditional ISO ballot document but please remember that<BR>> the only
purpose is to allow offline technical review of portions of a<BR>> web
site of modules. Also, there are some format issues (e.g. the<BR>>
bulleted list of normative references and introductory text needed
for<BR>> some subclauses) that have already been raised.<BR>> <BR>>
Comment please!<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> David<BR>> <BR>> (See attached
file: identifcation_assignment.PDF)<BR>> <BR>> IBM Corporation<BR>>
5300 International Blvd.<BR>> N. Charleston, SC 29418, USA<BR>>
dmprice@us.ibm.com<BR>> Phone : +1 (843) 760-4341 Fax : +1
(843) 760-3349<BR>> Oooo.<BR>> (UNC)<BR>> ) /<BR>>
(*/<BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>Julian Fowler, PDT Solutions<BR>Telephone: +44 15242
63389 Mobile: +44 7939 276005<BR>Fax: +44 870 052 3414 Email:
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