Your E-mail and Presentation "Machining features and Machinin g Process Features"

[Jesse L. Crusey]

Martin,

I thought AP213 was the output of process planning and AP213 is setting on
the shelf at FDIS.  What are the major functionalities that AP238 brings to
manufacturing that AP213 doesn't?  We have to remember there is a lot of
legacy data in shops that are still valid and considered to be in
production mode when parts are ordered and will remain so for year to come. 

Jesse Crusey

At 10:28 AM 1/10/02 -0500, Martin Hardwick wrote:
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>Dear All,
>
>My own opinion is that AP-224 is the input to process planning and
>AP-238 is the output.
>
>If AP-238 is NOT the output of Process Planning then what is, and
>what is the name and functionality of the system that reads in the
>new output and writes out AP-238?
>
>Potentially there are lots of applications that want to use the output of
>process planning but do these applications have information requirements
>that are not satisfied by AP-238 or could not be satisfied by making a
>minor enhancement to AP-238?
>
>In PDM STEP did itself a lot of harm by continually inventing new Application
>Protocols for trivial reasons- first AP-203 then AP-232 then AP-214 then
>PDM Schema then PDM Modules and now PLCS. As an expert it is very unclear
>to me why this was necessary. I really hope we can avoid making the same
>mistake in manufacturing. Manufacturing is divided into CAD, CAM
>and CNC systems how many AP's do we need? My answer is 2.
>
>Martin Hardwick
>
>
>
>At 02:48 PM 1/10/2002 +0000, Alan Crawford wrote:
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>>Dear Chiaki Sakamoto 
>>
>>Thank you for distributing your set of slides on the machining process
feature.  The diagrams, in particular Fig. 1 will be a significant help in
identifying the migration of design data in a form ready for machining
processes. 
>>
>>For AP224 the features are design representations prepared in a way
useful for manufacture but that the features are independent of the method
or processes used to manufacture.  In AP238, the features in a part file
need to represent a component in the complete form for that operation, on
that workcentre.  An updated approach is required for process planning in
STEP,  to establish the machining sequence.  Evidently one new task for
process planning is to prepare the feature information in a form required
for each workstation, it will also be important to exclude some features
not required until later in the manufacturing sequence.
>>
>>As the scope of STEPNC is extended to consider that more than one machine
for the manufacture of a component [the general case], the requirement for
in-process features to describe part-machined features is evident.
>>
>>Best regards 
>>
>>Alan Crawford 
>>
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7HL, United Kingdom 
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>>-----Original Message----- 
>>From: chiaki sakamoto
[<mailto:chiaki_sakamoto at keg.komatsu.co.jp>mailto:chiaki_sakamoto at keg.komats
u.co.jp] 
>>Sent: 07 January 2002 08:37 
>>To: Friedrich Glantschnig 
>>Cc: Alan Crawford; David Loffredo; Frederick Proctor; Len
Slovensky(AP224); Suk-Hwan SUH; Jochen Wolf; Peter Mueller; Yong Tak Hyun;
Martin Hardwick; Stefan Heusinger; kisinami at coin.eng.hokudai.ac.jp
>>
>>Subject: Re: Your E-mail and Presentation "Machining features and
Machining Process Features" 
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>>
>>
>>Dear Mr.Glantschnig, 
>>
>> Thank you for your comments on my proposal. 
>>

>> My explanation was not enough. 
>>So I added Fig.2 and its explanation in the attached file. 
>>
>> I think we have common understanding about Process Data Model. 
>>
>>Chiaki Sakamoto 
>>Komatsu Engineering 
>>
>>(See attached file: Machining Process Feature.ppt) 
>>
>>
>>
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>>20:07:39 
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